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Berserk82
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I've started to notice that many of the big casino streamers like letsgiveitaspin and casino daddy are in fact sponsored by game studios like Avatar UX, Stakelogic, etc. These are casino streamers who claim to be "real" and do not play using "sponsored money" (their own words). The truth is that they are. They are being paid big money to play certain games. How is that genuine? I'm genuinely confused and wonder how that makes them any better than Roshtein and the other ones that always claim to be above.

They play with bonus funds which makes up half of their gambling budgets and gives them a massive advantage and they also get paid by providers to play games they don't necessarily like, but because they get paid to. On top of that they also get shitload of affiliate money. Maybe we should just stop using the word "genuine", "real", and "honest" when describing said streamers because obviously it's all bs. So next time when you watch these people and you see them play Stakelogic games over and over as if it was the best thing since sliced bread, then you know they are being sponsored to do so and not because they are so infatuated with these specific games lol.

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Topic starter Posted : 11/11/2021 6:20 pm
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Nick77
(@nick77)

Didnt they hate on Pragmatic about them paying streamers? 🤔 

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Posted : 11/11/2021 6:34 pm
redneck
(@redneck)

So basically everything about casino streaming is fake. Not even the games they play is out of genuine passion. What a joke.

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Posted : 11/11/2021 6:38 pm
GanjaMan
(@ganjaman)

If they're not open about it then it's definitely disingenuous but as long as all cards on the table I don't see anything wrong with it. Marketing is marketing.

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Posted : 11/11/2021 10:38 pm
Xxxxwildingxxxx
(@xxxxwildingxxxx)

well letsgiveitaspin is using real money i think its different if you get paid to play games because you get to keep the money and thats no secret what can be a secret is pretending to use real money and lying you can actual have difference's on this fake money and using real money but getting payed for a game played there difference's, one difference is lying, like some streamer does ay zros f

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Posted : 15/11/2021 8:49 pm
El Diablo
(@el-diablo)
Posted by: @xxxxwildingxxxx

well letsgiveitaspin is using real money i think its different if you get paid to play games because you get to keep the money and thats no secret what can be a secret is pretending to use real money and lying you can actual have difference's on this fake money and using real money but getting payed for a game played there difference's, one difference is lying, like some streamer does ay zros f

How open are they about being paid by providers to play their games? I never heard him mention it once on stream. Isn't that to mislead viewers?

 

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Posted : 16/11/2021 12:50 pm
Xxxxwildingxxxx
(@xxxxwildingxxxx)

@el-diablo here mate the best thing to do is ask them letsgivieitaspin is one of the most genuin streamers but obviously you cant just except that from me or any other viewer go watch stream ask him that question im sure he will be honest, and when he tells you the truth would that be misleading, now its important to recognise differences beetween a fake streamer who lies, and a real money streamer who has not been asked the question by example you, you could assume other thing but actual you could be wrong 

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Posted : 16/11/2021 1:06 pm
El Diablo
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@xxxxwildingxxxx but that is like having to ask a food reviewer if he's been paid by the fast food company or not. You shouldn't have to do that. Obviously he's being paid to play certain slots but from what I've seen it's far from obvious. In fact, I've never seen it mentioned. It's just obvious to me because all of the sudden he'll be playing the same two slots over and over from the same provider etc. There are many tell tale signs along with officially announcements by game providers such as Avatar UX. I still think it's highly misleading and to claim you play with your own money when in fact you are getting tons of money from game providers to play their games + unlimited bonuses + affiliate money....how is that real money gambling? It's nothing like gambling for regular punters. I have nothing against letsgiveitaspin. I don't give a rats ass about him in fact. But shady marketing is shady marketing.

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Posted : 16/11/2021 2:32 pm
Xxxxwildingxxxx
(@xxxxwildingxxxx)

@el-diablo ok would it be misleading if i said we play there games because we have a competition on casinogr***** thats the only thing i can think of why he would play certain game abit more but actually what your saying when he plays the same game over and over again isnt true so if anything your the one who is fake here lying anyway , i do think he plays some game for that site i mentioned but he doesnt over play them, like you say and if someone does somthing different is that fake? or can you be different and honest?being different and getting extra as letsgivieaspin does doesnt make him dishonest or a liar, if he told you why he plays the game could that make you wrong , and the things you mentioned he talks openly about with his viewers but yet you say misleading im not sure if your right and fair but i musnt be understand correctly then 

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Posted : 16/11/2021 3:01 pm
El Diablo
(@el-diablo)

@xxxxwildingxxxx so he is open about being paid by Avatar UX, Stakelogic and most recently Slotmill to play their games? If so, can you point to where this transparency exist? Exactly what am I lying about? I'm curious to know that too.

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Posted : 16/11/2021 3:19 pm
Xxxxwildingxxxx
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@el-diablo well your assuming and could be wrong if you ask letsgiveitaspin and he said its from casino grounds and we dont always play them all the time just now and then, would you still think the same , if he explained and was honest , what are you lying about well your saying he is playing them all the time when he is not , i see that as lying but there other word that could be more appropriate, and your saying he is misleading, but  when he talks about the extra he gets with viewers from what ive watch when i watch him, he talks about the offers he has, he mentions the game he is playing for casinogrounds he answer question about channle his money example so you say all the misleading stuff but actually if you ask him he would  most likly answer you honest and im not just saying this its what ive seen time and time again , so you was lying when you said he plays them all the time as if your implying he plays them for hours when really he would just play them like any other game and go of the game like he would any other game so if i have watch him and it doesnt correlate with what your saying then i was jsut being fair thank you 

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Posted : 16/11/2021 4:25 pm
El Diablo
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@xxxxwildingxxxx honestly, I don't even know what you're rambling about. I know for a fact they are getting paid to play certain slots. It's well known in the industry that they have deals with game providers, as do other streamers. None of them are particularly open about it. Is this proof enough for you or are you going to keep trying to deny it? It's extremely obvious for us who know how things work when they are playing slots because they genuinely want to play them and when they have an obligation to play them because the get paid to do so. Are you going to sit here and pretend that letsgiveitaspin all of the sudden has an extreme craving and love for Stakelogic and Slotmill slots? Please...

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Posted : 16/11/2021 4:36 pm
Xxxxwildingxxxx
(@xxxxwildingxxxx)

@el-diablo you said they play them over and over again i said they don't your lying, you then said what am i lying about errmmmmm 🤓 

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Posted : 16/11/2021 4:40 pm
Xxxxwildingxxxx
(@xxxxwildingxxxx)

@el-diablo you mention he plays games that he gets paid for over and over again,thats a lie he doesn't he plays them just like another game and its from casinogrounds promotion and you also say he isnt honest about this when you haven't asked him,

you also say he its misleading that he plays with offers and and his money when he very open about this and explains to his viewers hows that misleading

 

so you said you dont understand what im rambling on about well i think the very same thanks though

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Posted : 16/11/2021 4:50 pm
Xxxxwildingxxxx
(@xxxxwildingxxxx)
Posted by: @el-diablo

@xxxxwildingxxxx honestly, I don't even know what you're rambling about. I know for a fact they are getting paid to play certain slots. It's well known in the industry that they have deals with game providers, as do other streamers. None of them are particularly open about it. Is this proof enough for you or are you going to keep trying to deny it? It's extremely obvious for us who know how things work when they are playing slots because they genuinely want to play them and when they have an obligation to play them because the get paid to do so. Are you going to sit here and pretend that letsgiveitaspin all of the sudden has an extreme craving and love for Stakelogic and Slotmill slots? Please...

i think kim plays the games for casinogrounds promotions and you haven't asked him, but say he isn't open about it, that's not fair right, ive also mentioned casinogrounds but you dont like to talka bout casinogrounds becuase that would go against what you accused him off and make you wrong if you accept he play for casinoground promotion these games, hey but ive made that acknowledgement for you 

i understand alot of streamers play games for money , i mentioned that i think just from a promotion on casinogrounds for kim thats all

 

and it was unfair to make out he plays them all day all the time when he doesn't so i mentioned that to and said your lying which your are if he doesn't 

 

i also understand your point but from what i seen i think kim deserve abit of respect and i was honest bigwinbaord jsut answer for him to considering he hisa friend and prove what i was saying is correct and you was abit wrong in what you was saying anyway i udnerstand your point and you are correct but it was unfair to mentiopn the thing you did about kim without asking also implying thing that wasnt true , and again he mentions to his viewrs alot on how it works and seems very honest thats my opinion i respect yours but understand i cant accept what you said if i know its wrong in some ways

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Posted : 16/11/2021 5:12 pm
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