Hi, do you happen to get an unusual thing in slot while you playing like some error or bug or anything? Let's share here
How about 2 identical spins next to each other?
https://www.bigwinboard.com/nitropolis-4-elk-studios-slot-review/#comment-27178
Yup it does happens to different providers abd different games.
Beef Lightning by BTG
Remeber Gulag by NLC
Trully "random spins" Patterns withing 100-300 spins 😉
I guess with the increasing complexity of the games nowadays it's just not possible to use true RNG anymore since there is no way to calculate it. Especially if you have to churn out one game every 2 weeks. I think that's totally fine if they are using a big enough sample pool so the player won't be able to recognize it.
Btw an easy way to spot a slot that's using Pseudo RNG is to look at the rtp. If it's a round number it's most likely PRNG (like ELK for example).
@donrehab PRNG is still acceptable, but I'm not very cool with pre-scripted rounds.
I also noticed something on Remember Gulag: Sometimes reel 1 is blocked by 3 K's to ensure a dead spin, or sometimes this is done by 2 bears and an xWays that also contains bears on reel 2.
I got a lot of what I call "technically idential" rounds that paid me 6x: Zhukov on reel 1 and 2, xNudge x3 on reel 3. Zhukov can appear on different positions of reel 1 and 2, and other irrelevant symbol might change, but for me, technically they're the same thing.
And ELK just straight up slapped two identical rounds next to each other on me.
No matter it is true PNG or Pseudo RNG, it is not the spun output determine the payout when you bet that round, it is the payout decides what kind of visual spun result you would see on the screen, and it really testing how the slot developer to make it exciting to watch the outcome.
Without the exciting visual element or if you are just a grinder, action spins from NLC should be the best choice of gambling.
@briancmc exactly right on this mate! It's the outcome of what game wants to pay to the player and it will set the reel + symbols and features according to it. If someone claims it is all random, it's not! Well a part of it yes, its random package used of reels + symbols used with random mechanics/features to match the payout outcome pre-set upfront. But as if it is as random as it's all claimed around the industry to the players, its quite laughable. Maybe some players don't know it, but majority does.
Beel lightning and Gulag are great examples here, Ive posted and there is more in the hood from both BTG and NLC. If I post them out, I will look like unhappy player or someone that wants to just criticize them 🙂 So no need for more. But coming back to Gulag - someone from Reps said its purely random which doesnt line up not even remotely with what is on screen happening sort of in cycle of 200-300 spins, with amount of symbols, amount of cells, combination possibilities in math. But the question is WHY they just dont admit it? Yes it's pre set strips of reels and symbols to add into screen for outcome payout? It's not something like we dont know it? But they just keep sort of hiding it, lying about it... even the evidence is obvious 😀
I mean...why? Ahahah
@degerardo99 You cannot say they are completely wrong. I believe the payout result is random, but it is some sort of misdirection to say the reels' combination are random. However they never tell you the randomness is specific to payout or reels' combination, so you cannot blame them being dishonest. They just left this to players and let them to make their own interpretation.
For those identical outcomes, I can only say the math model and visual is not doing good as a complex slot, such that they are no difference to a classic 3 reels 3 lines slot lol.
@briancmc yep exactly. Thats why I call it above as basically its all in question mark, is it? It isnt random? Part is, part is preset. Thats what I meant in short way saying 🙂
Games have history and some preset wins, features etc, to match the outcome of simulation and stats of each feature, bonus, wins frequencies...etc So its hard to call it truly random.
Its like pulling out a number out of a bag and the slot visualize how to reach that number,
like Jamming Jars says 321 euro win on the ball, and those jars will perform on different scripts to make the end winning result 321 euros.
Just like BP Gaming and Red Tiger credit the win before the actual bonus round complete. If you enter the bonus round on Red Tiger, and once you exit, your balance is already updated and you can instantly see if it was a bad or good bonus.
Blue Print Gaming, same concept.
I wish Quick Spin could have this implemented, its better that way, then spending 3 minutes on a bonus round, just to win 50x and the EPIC win display comes on (The older games I am talking about)
I honestly think the spin itself is random, but a bonus round, the win is already decided before the round ends!
I honestly think the spin itself is random, but a bonus round, the win is already decided before the round ends!
Sadly to say, base game and bonus round are just the same. Recall the "chaos" from Shaolin Panda Chaos Reels, the credit update right after you click spin/buy.
You know, some casinos misconfigure some of their slots, such that whatever you win on that spin it pops a message showing your current win/loss balance, in that way you can know your max win before the max win happens, and you are now immune to scatter bait lol
I’ve played animal madness from playngo, thousands of spins. The game repeats itself over and over. In a matter of time you can already predict what’s coming next. Also impossible to hit top symbol and the 2000x pay out